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Tuesday, January 31, 2006

Dumbledore alive, Snape not evil

Okay. We have been "discussing" this issue with some of our friends since vacation this summer.

It's long, but read www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com. It is several pages long, but worth the read for hard-core fans.

Make sure you click on the "clues" pages at the bottoms.

Love it. Love the pics.

6 Comments:

At Tue Jan 31, 07:58:00 PM, Blogger Coralius said...

I thoroughly agree. That site's pretty persuasive.

 
At Fri Feb 03, 05:12:00 AM, Blogger Ranson said...

I'll give you credit, there's more evidence for the theory than I originally thought.

As much as I would like to see all these clues just be a bait-and-switch, I think you may be right. I don't like it, simply because I personally think that jerking at the heartstrings that strongly, then erasing the reason for it is a cheap trick. Some people might see it as "leaving a reason for hope" or a "proper" coclusion for a "childrens' series" (like the last few books have actually been for kids). I think the story is much more engaging if our young, angry heroes are now truly on their own, not just perceiving themselves to be. I think a real loss is a much better way of doing things. I'd rather see Dumbledore as a ghost on the grounds after everything has been resolved than a returning physical prescence, sort of an Obi-Wan thing.

I also think we're going to see at least one dead Weasley. Choose between the father, Ron, and /or one of the twins.

 
At Sun Feb 05, 05:54:00 AM, Blogger Aradia said...

You think we are going to lose a Weasley because of the scene with Molly and the boggart? (Aren't those the loved ones she saw dead when she was trying to dispatch the one at Grimmald Place?)

I, however, am not sure that I see anything being cheapened if Dumbledore is alive. I know. You're thinking, "Of course, you don't." But, really, this is kind of where I am going with this: Dumbledore loves Harry (and the others) like a son. Now, we all know that we don't actually live in comparably perilous times; but if we did, as a parent, how far would you go to do what you felt was best for you little one(s)? Or, teens as the case may be. Maybe this mind-set is because I spend more time with teenagers, but I see teens on a daily basis who need a reality check. Some of them are only going to learn these important life lessons through experience, aka: “the hard way.” I am hard-pressed to conclude that anything a parent (parent-figure) does for their child’s betterment is cheap. Having said that, I do think that Dumbledore would have been willing to sacrifice himself for Harry’s (and the world’s) benefit – if it were necessary. But, as he said to Draco, it is not.

Harry has a difficult fight ahead of him, and the time he has to prepare is getting shorter and shorter. He has to be able to do this on his own. He has to take that last step and grow up.

In more recent books, we have seen that Dumbledore is fallible and that Harry, whether he asks for help or not, always seems to expect someone to pull him out of the fire should he need it. Whether they do/have to or not is another story.

 
At Sun Feb 05, 06:32:00 AM, Blogger Ranson said...

Nah, I'm just thinking in terms of dramatic tension and story-building on the Weasley thing. This book is the big fight, and the Weasleys are on the front lines, officially (dad and older brothers) and unofficially (the twins on down). Casualties happen, and we care about those characters.

And while I see your point about the wake up call, I think that it'll be an utterly useless one if Dumbledore pops up okay after all is said and done. "I died to get you to be self-reliant."

"But you're here now, and it was hell thinking you were dead."

"Yes, well, you learned a lesson, right?"

"Yeah, I learned that, when you die, I can't trust you not to be manipulating my emotions and path in life, and that if I wait long enough, you'll come back."

Of course, by that point, the series will be over, and the aftermath won't be an issue.

I'm sorry. It's probably the case that you're right, and the whole thing is a setup. I just think that'll make for a poorer story and cheats the characters of the validity of their grief. Allow death to be death. It hasn't hit anyone big yet, and the same lesson is learned if the loss is real, and I think it would be learned better that way.

 
At Mon Mar 06, 01:03:00 PM, Blogger Coralius said...

You're wrong. Sirius died in a big way, and Harry grieved and grieved. There's your deathly motivation. And who says Dumbledore will pop up at the end? Just because he's pretending to be dead doesn't mean that he'll stop pretending afterwards. I'd think he's earned a vacation.

 
At Mon Mar 06, 04:24:00 PM, Blogger Ranson said...

You waited over a month to say that?

 

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